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December 07, 2010, at 08:52 PM by Jeremy Parish - format
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You have to applaud determination to break into the U.S. market with the Dragon Quest series, even after the abysmal failure of promotion of the first game. The biggest problem the series faced in the U.S. was that most of its user base had no clue about why the series would be interesting to them.

Enix persevered, however, and self-published the rest of
the NES entries in order. Dragon Quest II was and is the most forgettable entrant in the series, but III and IV were special. Dragon Quest III is particularly notable in that it was the last game in the series until IX rolled around to feature a generic fantasy plot with little in the way of specific characterization for the PCs and NPCs. What was special about it was the way the game allowed the player to assemble their own party and play the game however they wanted. In essence, it traded on the restrictions of a greater plot to give the player more choices in how to approach the game itself. It did this while retaining the classic Dragon Quest aesthetic of minimalist user interface and dialogue all while enacting some rather severe changes and upgrades under the hood. Yet even as it was noisily revolutionizing the genre in Japan, it sold peanuts in the U.S. probably why Square decided to give American audiences the insultingly simplistic Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
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You have to applaud determination to break into the U.S. market with the '''[[DragonQuestSeries | Dragon Quest]]''' series, even after the abysmal failure of promotion of the first game. The biggest problem the series faced in the U.S. was that most of its user base had no clue about why the series would be interesting to them.

Enix persevered, however, and self-published
the rest of the NES entries in order. '''Dragon Quest II''' was and is the most forgettable entrant in the series, but '''III''' and '''IV''' were special. Dragon Quest III is particularly notable in that it was the last game in the series until '''IX''' rolled around to feature a generic fantasy plot with little in the way of specific characterization for the PCs and NPCs. What was special about it was the way the game allowed the player to assemble their own party and play the game however they wanted. In essence, it traded on the restrictions of a greater plot to give the player more choices in how to approach the game itself. It did this while retaining the classic Dragon Quest aesthetic of minimalist user interface and dialogue all while enacting some rather severe changes and upgrades under the hood. Yet even as it was noisily revolutionizing the genre in Japan, it sold peanuts in the U.S. probably why Square decided to give American audiences the insultingly simplistic '''[[Final Fantasy Mystic Quest]]'''.
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December 07, 2010, at 08:50 PM by Jeremy Parish - images
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http://www.gamespite.net/img/wiki/games2/title_megaman4.gif

'''[[Main | Games]] | [[MainNES | NES]] | Mega Man 4'''
to:
http://www.gamespite.net/img/wiki/games2/title_g5-dragonwarrioriii.gif

'''[[Main | Games]] | [[MainNES | NES]] | Dragon Warrior III'''
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[-Article by [[~Andrew Bentley]] | August 25, 2010-]
to:
[-Article by [[~Andrew Bentley]] | December 7, 2010-]
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to:
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[+'''Mega Man 4'''+]

''Developer:'' Capcom\\
''U.S. Release:'' December 1991\\
to:
[+'''Dragon Warrior III'''+]

''Developer:'' Enix\\
''U.S. Release:'' 1991\\
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to:
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[-Previous: [[G5-ChapterFourAgingGracefully | Chapter Four: Aging Gracefully]] | [[Site/GSQ5TableOfContents | GameSpite Quarterly 5]] | Next: [[G5-ConsoleContemptContained | Console Contempt Contained]]-]
to:
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December 07, 2010, at 08:14 PM by Jeremy Parish - text
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[-Article by [[~Jeremy Parish]] | August 25, 2010-]
to:
[-Article by [[~Andrew Bentley]] | August 25, 2010-]
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For me, '''Mega Man 4''' marked the end of the prime years. I certainly see it as such at the time, but in retrospect tough not to see the hard demarcation between the vibrant peak and its dwindling twilight years. Mega Man 4 is where that line was drawn in the sand for me.

This
to say the NES up and died the day Mega Man 4 hit stores, because it . Nor am I suggesting Mega Man 4 a disaster of a game, because it . The game simply marked the point at which most developers began maxing out the system, when their reach began to exceed their grasp, when 16-bit envy set in and the NES library began to suffer for it.

The arrival of technologically superior competitors like TurboGrafx-16 and Genesis spell
the instant demise of the NES, of course. In many cases, it pushed NES developers to work even harder to create the most incredible 8-bit experiences possible. Even with the Super NES looming on the horizon, the NES had a few good years of satisfying life left in it. But it also had games like Mega Man 4, which suggested the writing was on the wall.

Mega Man 4, as you might expect from the fourth annual iteration of a series, was a well-made yet thoroughly predictable videogame
. It held no surprises for loyal fans, sending its titular hero through eight selectable stages to defeat the themed robot master within, win its weapon, and advance to take down Dr. Wily in a skull-shaped techno-castle. The plot made a furtive attempt to throw gamers off scent by introducing a new foe named Dr. Cossack, but after pretense of retribution in '''[[G5-MegaMan3 | Mega Man 3]]''', few were fooled -- if they even cared in the first place. Mega Man exactly the sort of game you played for its stirring plotline.\\
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You have to applaud determination to break into the U.S. market with the Dragon Quest series, even after the abysmal failure of promotion of the first game. The biggest problem the series faced in the U.S. was that most of its user base had no clue about why the series would be interesting to them.

Enix persevered, however,
and self-published the rest of the NES entries in order. Dragon Quest II was and is the most forgettable entrant in the series, but III and IV were special. Dragon Quest III is particularly notable in that it was the last game in the series until IX rolled around to feature a generic fantasy plot with little in the way of specific characterization for the PCs and NPCs. What was special about it was the way the game allowed the player to assemble their own party and play the game however they wanted. In essence, it traded on the restrictions of a greater plot to give the player more choices in how to approach the game itself. It did this while retaining the classic Dragon Quest aesthetic of minimalist user interface and dialogue all while enacting some rather severe changes and upgrades under the hood. Yet even as it was noisily revolutionizing the genre in Japan, it sold peanuts in the U.S. probably why Square decided to give American audiences the insultingly simplistic Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
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No, you played Mega Man games because they offered tightly crafted run-and-jump shooting action in beautifully designed stages populated by huge robots crammed with personality. In that regard, Mega Man 4 disappoint. Its level themes were far more coherent than Mega Man weird mish-mash of designs, and the enemy robots were more artfully rendered than ever before. It was definitely the most technically accomplished Mega Man game to date.

The problem, however, is that all that visual finesse and programming expertise and general sense of coherence was squandered on a game that felt largely uninspired. For the first time, Mega Man felt like he was simply going through the motions. '''[[6-MegaMan2 | Mega Man 2]]''' had offered tremendous creative leaps over its predecessor, and Mega Man 3 added depth and refinement to the mix. Mega Man 4 offered very little new, and what modest additions it made were uninspired at best, game-ruining at worst.

The new collection of robot masters took their cues from Mega Man Top Man, making an art of insipidness. Dust Man is the obvious offender, in truth a weirdly named garbage compactor of an enemy, but Mega Man 4 had a full slate of lame ducks. Pharaoh Man and Toad Man reek of the designers trying too hard -- or rather, of not vetting user contributions scrupulously enough -- while Ring Man was completely insipid. Even the submarine-themed Dive Man was a dud, despite the fact that a submarine-themed robot enemy should have been amazing. \\
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Mega Man biggest failing, however, was in its sole addition to the core mechanics: the charge shot. The series earned success thanks in large part to the thoughtful design given to Mega capabilities; the hero began each game capable but intrinsically weak. Only by defeating his enemies could he add new powers to his arsenal, and even then each new addition was only situationally valuable. The default arm cannon terribly strong, but it was universally effective. The central action of the first three Mega Man games was deliberately balanced, encouraging players to experiment with different power-ups and always leaving the basic - as a fall-back for when the available extra weapons were no longer suitable for the challenges ahead.

The charge shot changed that. Suddenly, the arm cannon was no longer a flimsy tool of last resort; it could be charged in just a few seconds to become nearly as powerful any of the robot weapons -- and unlike Mega secondary powers, it had infinite ammo. While the charged shot was rarely exactly as powerful as a sub-weapon when used against something vulnerable to that particular weapon, it came close. And it need to be swapped out or recharged, and there was never any question that it would work against a given enemy. The ability to charge Mega blaster almost completely obviated the need for sub-weapons, especially since the first eight levels of the game had to be designed to allow players to approach them in any sequence and thus require the use of specific extra powers.

Worst of all, the oscillating hum it made while being charged occupied one of the precious sound channels, cutting into the music. Mega Man soundtrack was far more percussive and less memorably melodic than its , most likely because it had to be composed around the fact that most gamers would run through the levels with the fire button held down with the constant warble of weapon-charging humming atop the tunes. The impulse to simply play through the game with the Megabuster alone even spoiled the pacing; the brisk run-and-gun action slowed as gamers spent more time waiting for their weapon to charge. In short, the charge shot broke the game.\\
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And that is the late NES era in a nutshell. The state of console game design had truly matured on machine, evolving from brief single-screen diversions patterned after the golden era to dense, multi-layered adventures and complex action creations. By the dawn of the , the design and ambition of the best games had largely surpassed what the NES was capable of supporting. Mega Man 4 was limited as much by technology as by stagnation and legacy. The very elements that undermined its design worked smoothly in its 16-bit successor, '''[[MegaManXWelcomeToTheYear20XX | Mega Man X]]''', because X was built from the ground up to support those features. Mega Man 4, however, was the point at which Capcom found itself trying to cram too many features into too limited a framework.

The NES continued to soldier on for several years with a healthy supply of great games, many of which even managed to realize their ambitions within the restrictions of the NES. Yet in games like Mega Man 4 we see a figurative passing of the torch as the leading developers reached their limit and began looking forward to the greener pastures of the successors.

As for Mega Man 4... a pretty good game. no Mega Man 2, but it has its moments. Just try to resist the temptation to abuse the charge shot.
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'''[[Main | Games]] | [[MainNES | NES]] | Mega Man 4'''

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The problem, however, is that all that visual finesse and programming expertise and general sense of coherence was squandered on a game that felt largely uninspired. For the first time, Mega Man felt like he was simply going through the motions. '''[[6-MegaMan2 | Mega Man 2]]''' had offered tremendous creative leaps over its predecessor, and Mega Man 3 added depth and refinement to the mix. Mega Man 4 offered very little new, and what modest additions it made were uninspired at best, game-ruining at worst.


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